To be honest, looking at the current market, I actually hope it would just have a sharp drop.
Why do I think this way? It's simple—only when it drops near the real support trendline do I feel comfortable buying in. Even if I get stuck later, at least I feel at ease. What I fear most is chasing in at these awkward positions or at a rebound high. That feeling is like sitting on a volcano—once it starts to drop, it turns straight into a waterfall, and your mindset collapses instantly.
On the daily chart, the weakening signals are already quite clear. Consecutive bearish candles, increased volatility, and most importantly, the EMA7 has crossed below the EMA30—a death cross has formed. This usually confirms the short-term downtrend, with bears taking control.
Switching to the four-hour chart, the "range-bound downtrend" path is clearly laid out. Highs and lows are moving down step by step, and the bearish moving averages are pressing the price down tightly. However, the four-hour RSI is already nearing the oversold area, so we need to watch out for a potential short-term rebound at any moment.
Key points:
1. On the main trend, the daily death cross is confirmed and the bias is bearish—this is the basic premise for current trades.
2. In terms of timing, the next step is to watch whether the four-hour chart can stabilize at some point and organize a decent rebound. The strength of this rebound will directly determine whether the market continues to drop or enters a consolidation phase.
3. For specific operations, in a daily bearish structure, the strategy is to short at resistance during rebounds. If you want to bottom-fish, you must wait for two conditions: the price reaches a reliable support area, and the four-hour chart shows a clear reversal signal, such as a bullish divergence or a strong bullish engulfing candle.
When the trend is bearish, don’t rush to catch the bottom. Either follow the short after the rebound loses momentum, or patiently wait for a thoroughly washed-out, clear bottom signal.
12.9 BTC Trading Reference:
1. Short at 90999–90399, stop loss above 91999, target 88999–87999, continue to watch 86499 area
2. Long at 86488–87588, stop loss below 85488, target 87999–88888
12.9 ETH Trading Reference:
1. Short at 3159–3119, stop loss above 3199, target 3009–2969
2. Long at 2959–2999, stop loss below 2909, target 3069–3109
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GasFeeTears
· 12-09 13:56
The death cross has already formed and you're still hesitating? Might as well just go short, since your mindset is already bearish anyway.
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Just afraid of a sudden rebound, getting caught right at the volcano's mouth again—this feeling is really something else.
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Couldn't hold the support, RSI is almost oversold, feels like it could explode at any moment.
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Wait for a bullish divergence signal before entering, don't rush it. Only those who can endure will make money.
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This chart is a bit awkward—can't go down, can't go up, it's so frustrating.
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The 4-hour chart is really in a downward consolidation, honestly, following the shorts is the most reliable.
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Bottom fishing, bottom fishing—those who got in early are already stuck. Better to wait for a clear signal.
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Once the daily chart shows a death cross, any rebound is a shorting opportunity—this logic is solid.
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Wait until it drops to 86499 before buying. Buying now is just faith-based.
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RSI is approaching oversold, a rebound is coming—better be careful.
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SchrödingersNode
· 12-08 21:52
Let the deep drop come, I can't wait anymore. I absolutely refuse to get trapped at this awkward position.
Once this death cross is confirmed, the bears will really take control, so we need to carefully watch the strength of any rebound.
If 86499 can hold, I'll consider going long. Without a signal, I absolutely won't act.
Man, every time it's this much turmoil. Really need to train my mindset.
I'll wait for a clear four-hour signal that the decline has stopped before doing anything. Bottom fishing isn't that simple.
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GasFeeWhisperer
· 12-08 21:52
Bro, your analysis this time is thorough. The death cross looks this bad and people still don’t dare to buy in—I gotta give it to you.
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Wait for the rebound to lose steam before shorting? Sounds easy, but when it comes to actually trading, your mindset just collapses.
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RSI is already approaching oversold and you’re still waiting for a bottom signal. Your mentality is really something else.
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Where’s the support level? Is 86499 the bottom? Everything sounds right, just don’t know how to make a move.
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That volcano crater analogy is spot on—I really get that feeling of restlessness.
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Can the 4-hour chart hold here? From your chart, it looks like there’s still room to drop.
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I’ve heard “don’t rush to catch the bottom” too many times, but I still end up getting trapped.
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I think the risk is a bit high with this trading reference. Is 87999 really a resistance for the rebound?
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Still want to go long after a death cross has formed? Just watching it makes me tired.
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You’re pretty firm on your bearish view this time, but what if it bounces back to around 91999?
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MetaverseHermit
· 12-08 21:52
Oh man, I totally get this mindset—just afraid of buying at the top.
Only feel at ease when it drops to the right level, and now it’s just super awkward.
The daily death cross has already appeared, bears are speaking up, shorting the rebound is the right move.
The 4-hour RSI is almost oversold, gotta watch out for a snapback that bites you.
If the rebound is weak, just go short—don’t even think about bottom fishing, that’s just suicidal trading.
I expect this wave to keep dropping, only buy in when the bottom signals are clear, otherwise you’ll just get trapped.
I’m following this BTC short, targeting the 8k range, and ETH is about the same.
The key is patience, don’t rush it— the market will wait for you.
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0xInsomnia
· 12-08 21:38
The death cross has already appeared and you're still waiting? I went short a long time ago. There shouldn't be any surprises as it drops this time—let's just see how low it can go.
To be honest, looking at the current market, I actually hope it would just have a sharp drop.
Why do I think this way? It's simple—only when it drops near the real support trendline do I feel comfortable buying in. Even if I get stuck later, at least I feel at ease. What I fear most is chasing in at these awkward positions or at a rebound high. That feeling is like sitting on a volcano—once it starts to drop, it turns straight into a waterfall, and your mindset collapses instantly.
On the daily chart, the weakening signals are already quite clear. Consecutive bearish candles, increased volatility, and most importantly, the EMA7 has crossed below the EMA30—a death cross has formed. This usually confirms the short-term downtrend, with bears taking control.
Switching to the four-hour chart, the "range-bound downtrend" path is clearly laid out. Highs and lows are moving down step by step, and the bearish moving averages are pressing the price down tightly. However, the four-hour RSI is already nearing the oversold area, so we need to watch out for a potential short-term rebound at any moment.
Key points:
1. On the main trend, the daily death cross is confirmed and the bias is bearish—this is the basic premise for current trades.
2. In terms of timing, the next step is to watch whether the four-hour chart can stabilize at some point and organize a decent rebound. The strength of this rebound will directly determine whether the market continues to drop or enters a consolidation phase.
3. For specific operations, in a daily bearish structure, the strategy is to short at resistance during rebounds. If you want to bottom-fish, you must wait for two conditions: the price reaches a reliable support area, and the four-hour chart shows a clear reversal signal, such as a bullish divergence or a strong bullish engulfing candle.
When the trend is bearish, don’t rush to catch the bottom. Either follow the short after the rebound loses momentum, or patiently wait for a thoroughly washed-out, clear bottom signal.
12.9 BTC Trading Reference:
1. Short at 90999–90399, stop loss above 91999, target 88999–87999, continue to watch 86499 area
2. Long at 86488–87588, stop loss below 85488, target 87999–88888
12.9 ETH Trading Reference:
1. Short at 3159–3119, stop loss above 3199, target 3009–2969
2. Long at 2959–2999, stop loss below 2909, target 3069–3109